Curse

Evilsod · Aug 10, 2007, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by hallomik

Lol. We've had access steadily since the first 20 people hit.

Two theories come to mind:

1) A whole lot of people have been secretly saving up their maxed titles for just such a day to come along.

2) Anet actually knows what they're doing.

(Ponders)

Or more possible... Anet have no idea what the hell they're doing and people are just farming there max titles at the moment because they have to? Sooner or later we'll run out of people who can actually be arsed to farm Leg Sunspear.

cellardweller · Aug 10, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

While I applaud the seperation of PvP from PvE, I am appauled they replaced it with another system that made me rely on the actions of others to gain access to content. Entry to FoW and UW should be based on a players own achievements only.

They got the access model right with DoA, why this backward step?

SpitfireMK461 · Aug 10, 2007, 02:34 AM // 02:34

in a 20 minute time span, ive watched 8 people get titles. This seems crazy enough to work...for a time.

Zexion · Aug 10, 2007, 02:35 AM // 02:35

That might all be good and well... For now. But I really think this plan lacks FORESIGHT. Sure, we might have favor at a decent rate. But what when GWEN releases, when people do not grind the old titles, and have yet to max the new titles?
And what about 6 months from GWEN release? Will people be able to keep up the rate by then?

_Zexion

Bryant Again · Aug 10, 2007, 02:37 AM // 02:37

Have we gotten favor yet? And does it show globally when someone's gotten favor, or is it only in Tyria?

hallomik · Aug 10, 2007, 02:39 AM // 02:39

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

Or more possible... Anet have no idea what the hell they're doing and people are just farming there max titles at the moment because they have to? Sooner or later we'll run out of people who can actually be arsed to farm Leg Sunspear.

Time will tell, Evilsod.

I'm still betting Anet looks at the stats before they rolled this out. I'm sure there will be downtime during the off hours. My guess is during heavy playing periods, favor will be pretty constant.

Moreover, given how many hours and hours it takes to farm a title, I just can't believe people are running out right now and doing it. Occam's razor says no.

hallomik · Aug 10, 2007, 02:44 AM // 02:44

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Have we gotten favor yet? And does it show globally when someone's gotten favor, or is it only in Tyria?

All regions get favor together now. Just type /favor to see either how close we are to getting it or how much time is left.

NJudson · Aug 10, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

Well, like many people have stated, I'll just have to give it a while to see how it plays out. So far I was on for 1 hour earlier and the closest to favor was 5 titles needed maxed, but then I had to get off the game. So I can see it really being a crapshoot as far as whether or not we get favor at the times that I'm on. However, considering I've seen America with favor (at the times I'm on) like once in the past month then I'd say the odds are probably greater for me getting access now.

As far as scrolls go I guess I feel pretty stupid because I've been playing the game for over a 1 1/2 years and this is the first time I've heard of scrolls to UW/FOW.

I checked at the traders while in game, but there were none. Any ideas how often the traders have UW and FOW scrolls?

And on a personal note, I think the most titles are pretty ridiculous for my own personal gain. With my style of gameplay and at its current rate I wouldn't max out most any of those titles for 5 years. I don't know how much of the GW population is just casual players versus more hardcore gamers, but most of those max titles seems so unbelievably unattainable to the casual gamer its not even funny.

So for now I will standby and rely on hardcore GW nerdwads with no life shoot for stupid max titles so I can leech off their efforts to get into UW/FOW.

TideSwayer · Aug 10, 2007, 02:51 AM // 02:51

ANet is a very incompetent planner and developer. Seems like EVERY idea they come up with ends up getting implemented severely wrong (Kurzick/Luxon title grind) or at the least, half-assed (only 3 heroes in a party?). Big fundamental change ideas like this should've been brought to the forums for discussion long before it was implemented. Ever try and ask people - your dedicated playerbase who probably plays the game more than you do - for reasonable suggestions on how to change the favor system? Of course not. ANet knows all, but they know nothing. This is terrible. Players have been requesting a change to favor since Day 1, you finally decide to change it, yet decide to do everything on your own with absolutely NO player input? Note to ANet: you don't even know what's wrong with your own game. Hell, the guy who gave their E3 presentation couldn't even get his facts straight. Does anybody at ANet even have a clue about this game anymore? Does anybody at ANet even play this game anymore?

What a waste of ANet's time and precious "resources" to make this change when there are more severe problems at this stage. (*ahem* *ahem* Party Search window message length and trade in general *ahem*). The original favor system kind of sucks, but people had gotten used to it. Plus, with ecto and shard prices down you didn't need to farm those places 24/7 anymore to build up a stash for armors or whatnot. Scrolls were doing the job too.

Before EVERY damn expansion, I swear... ANet makes a change to something people had gotten used to. This is the big one for GW:EN. Unbelievable, and pathetic. Now they have to spend even MORE developer time and resources to fix this travesty instead of taking their time, getting it right the first time, and having that extra time to work on other problem areas of the game.

I could report the bug of the missing bridge on the compass map in Ring of Fire, but it wouldn't ever get fixed. I could report the bug of the missing bridge in Gate of Pain to the 3rd Emissary of Dhuum, but it wouldn't get fixed for about a year. This is why I don't bother to make suggestions, give ample feedback, or give bug reports anymore. ANet doesn't have a clue what players want or what the people who actually play this game need to improve their game experience. They refuse to open their ears and listen. Hint: it's not title-grind. Titles were introduced as a luxury. With the POS lengthy grind for the Kurzick and Luxon titles, and now this, titles are slowly becoming the key element of the game. Forget it.

Theli · Aug 10, 2007, 02:54 AM // 02:54

lawl my bad,
but how anet put the pvp titles there? If there is no max for pvp titles?.

pingu666 · Aug 10, 2007, 02:55 AM // 02:55

just make it open to all, with some pre entry quest/challenge maybe...

i do agree this is a rather random change

maybe make the requirement the same as hardmode?...

Lord-UWR · Aug 10, 2007, 02:56 AM // 02:56

If anyone has actually noticed, at least 10 of the titles are not complete and there is no known max for them, like all the PVP ones. Others are simply a grind and would take forever to max. This is stupid, although the idea is kinda good, but 20!!! people for ONE HOUR??? WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU!??? lol

NJudson · Aug 10, 2007, 02:58 AM // 02:58

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Originally Posted by TideSwayer

ANet is a very incompetent planner and developer. .
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Before EVERY damn expansion, I swear... ANet makes a change to something people had gotten used to. This is the big one for GW:EN. Unbelievable, and pathetic.

Now they have to spend even MORE developer time and resources to fix this travesty instead of taking their time, getting it right the first time, and having that extra time to work on other problem areas of the game.

Wow. Just wow. You obviously have little or no love for ANET. I tend to disagree with most of what you've blabbed about. I'm quite sure ANET knows a hell of a lot more than you think YOU know. Good Lord...

DarkEchoes · Aug 10, 2007, 03:02 AM // 03:02

If it gets to the point that we almost never get favor, im sure something will change.

Neo Nugget · Aug 10, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

The whole world will know when somebody gets rank 15......i wonder what kind of wispers that guy will get lol.

TideSwayer · Aug 10, 2007, 03:07 AM // 03:07

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Originally Posted by NJudson

Wow. Just wow. You obviously have little or no love for ANET. I tend to disagree with most of what you've blabbed about. I'm quite sure ANET knows a hell of a lot more than you think YOU know. Good Lord...

I love the game. I don't love many elements about the game or the people who make the decisions regarding those elements. It is my belief that this game's potential suffers moreso due to ANet's incompetent planning and implementations of things than competition stealing players away.

I'm just being honest. Don't kill me for having an opinion. It's not wrong to hold ANet to a higher standard because IMO that's what this franchise deserves.

NJudson · Aug 10, 2007, 03:13 AM // 03:13

Sorry dude, I guess I was a bit harsh.

I do see what your saying; however, I guess it's my opinion that ANET has done well with much of their updates/changes since I've been playing the game.

Granted, it is frustrating when something gets changed and it forces you to re-vamp your skill sets or whatever. Likewise it is sometimes frustrating when they roll out a long awaited change that does not meet your expectations. However, I think it's important for the game to evolve and not get stagnant. Perhaps there are things they could do better, but my overall opinion is that they do a pretty good job.

Evilsod · Aug 10, 2007, 03:15 AM // 03:15

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Originally Posted by hallomik

Time will tell, Evilsod.

I'm still betting Anet looks at the stats before they rolled this out. I'm sure there will be downtime during the off hours. My guess is during heavy playing periods, favor will be pretty constant.

Moreover, given how many hours and hours it takes to farm a title, I just can't believe people are running out right now and doing it. Occam's razor says no.

Wtf does Occam's Razor have to do with this... go to the off-topic section if you want to talk about House MD.

So in short, what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is the point to this change? If what you say will actually happen then the favour will be up constantly between hours of regular playtime (note this is the summer holidays... lots of people NOT at school!), and down during the night. So all this does is punish the people who can't get online at 'heavy' playtime.

This change makes the favour system completely worthless. Either it'll be up randomly and have nothing to do with actually gaining 'impressing' the gods or it'll be up constantly and should just be removed and stop wasting our damn time with this crap.

I'm with TideSwayer... Anet really do have no idea wtf they're doing, not a single person has ever asked for the favour system to made into a title based system, and if they did people probably thought it sucked, so they do it anyway without any input from people who actually play!

twicefeuled · Aug 10, 2007, 03:21 AM // 03:21

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Originally Posted by HayesA

About time they fixed it. PVP shouldn't influence PVE. Ever. D:

Thank you Anet!

I loves you!

Uh huh, Rockmoulder, Soul Reaping, no, not Awad. Yay, more grind for PVE. I'm gonna pass, thanks

ichigo_panty · Aug 10, 2007, 03:25 AM // 03:25

Please change this system.

It is not going to work like Evilsod said.

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Originally Posted by Evilsod

So in short, what the RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO is the point to this change? If what you say will actually happen then the favour will be up constantly between hours of regular playtime (note this is the summer holidays... lots of people NOT at school!), and down during the night. So all this does is punish the people who can't get online at 'heavy' playtime.

This change makes the favour system completely worthless. Either it'll be up randomly and have nothing to do with actually gaining 'impressing' the gods or it'll be up constantly and should just be removed and stop wasting our damn time with this crap.

I'm with TideSwayer... Anet really do have no idea wtf they're doing, not a single person has ever asked for the favour system to made into a title based system, and if they did people probably thought it sucked, so they do it anyway without any input from people who actually play!

The titles will eventually get max-ed out, and we wouldn't get favor then?
And to those with max titles now, this isn't fair.